Comments on: MMA for kids. Yea or nay? http://kempoinfo.com/2008/03/27/mma-for-kids-yea-or-nay/ Let's get back to Kempo... Fri, 18 May 2012 11:33:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: SamsMom http://kempoinfo.com/2008/03/27/mma-for-kids-yea-or-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-925 SamsMom Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:56:54 +0000 http://kempoinfo.com/2008/03/27/mma-for-kids-yea-or-nay/#comment-925 My 8 year old is in MMA classes but more as a way to channel his energy and teach him disaplin and control. He is ADHD and I hate the meds, he is also the oldest of 3 and I am a single mom. He looks up to his teacher who guides him apropriatly.. they do not wail on each other they do vary vary intense exercise twice a week in class and learn positions on how to pin an attacker or escape an attaker. They spar but not like what you see in rings, everything is under control, they are not out to hurt each other just out manuver... His teach presses on all of them how the ring and only the ring under his guidence is the only place to spar "With other trained students" and how they cant use it otherwise cause they could do more damage then they antend. My son does better at school, at home and socially since he started. he exercises daily of his own decision, eats healthy by his own choices, and has a confidence in himself that amazes me... He use to be the class clown, made jokes at himself to make others like him. Now he doesnt try so hard and is ok with whatever people think... I know this is not for all kids, I would never put my other 2 in it.. but it was a great fit for my son and has a great teacher who makes a great male figure as my kids dad lives out of state. I cannot forget that the teacher goes over eating habbits, moderation, and NO DRUGS... I can only tell him so many times befor it becomes "whatever" but when his mentor tells him and why it could ruin him not only in the ring, but with family friends and career wise. I hope to keep my son in this for a long time.. My 8 year old is in MMA classes but more as a way to channel his energy and teach him disaplin and control. He is ADHD and I hate the meds, he is also the oldest of 3 and I am a single mom. He looks up to his teacher who guides him apropriatly.. they do not wail on each other they do vary vary intense exercise twice a week in class and learn positions on how to pin an attacker or escape an attaker. They spar but not like what you see in rings, everything is under control, they are not out to hurt each other just out manuver… His teach presses on all of them how the ring and only the ring under his guidence is the only place to spar “With other trained students” and how they cant use it otherwise cause they could do more damage then they antend. My son does better at school, at home and socially since he started. he exercises daily of his own decision, eats healthy by his own choices, and has a confidence in himself that amazes me… He use to be the class clown, made jokes at himself to make others like him. Now he doesnt try so hard and is ok with whatever people think…

I know this is not for all kids, I would never put my other 2 in it.. but it was a great fit for my son and has a great teacher who makes a great male figure as my kids dad lives out of state.

I cannot forget that the teacher goes over eating habbits, moderation, and NO DRUGS… I can only tell him so many times befor it becomes “whatever” but when his mentor tells him and why it could ruin him not only in the ring, but with family friends and career wise.

I hope to keep my son in this for a long time..

]]> By: Marlon http://kempoinfo.com/2008/03/27/mma-for-kids-yea-or-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-523 Marlon Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:35:42 +0000 http://kempoinfo.com/2008/03/27/mma-for-kids-yea-or-nay/#comment-523 I like what master Bishop said: kajuand related arts are the original MMA's. So fro that view point yes. However, since what the article is speaking about is MMS. Mixed martial sports, then I would say no I like what master Bishop said: kajuand related arts are the original MMA’s. So fro
that view point yes. However, since what the article is speaking about is MMS. Mixed martial sports, then I would say no

]]> By: Local High School MMA Club http://kempoinfo.com/2008/03/27/mma-for-kids-yea-or-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-430 Local High School MMA Club Tue, 19 May 2009 02:38:53 +0000 http://kempoinfo.com/2008/03/27/mma-for-kids-yea-or-nay/#comment-430 [...] MMA for kids. Yea or nay? (10) [...] [...] MMA for kids. Yea or nay? (10) [...]

]]> By: ruth http://kempoinfo.com/2008/03/27/mma-for-kids-yea-or-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-320 ruth Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:19:56 +0000 http://kempoinfo.com/2008/03/27/mma-for-kids-yea-or-nay/#comment-320 just wondering thought is mma more aggressive than kempo or something? what is the difference between a kid learning mma and kempo? just wondering thought is mma more aggressive than kempo or something? what is the difference between a kid learning mma and kempo?

]]> By: dalton http://kempoinfo.com/2008/03/27/mma-for-kids-yea-or-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-143 dalton Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:00:16 +0000 http://kempoinfo.com/2008/03/27/mma-for-kids-yea-or-nay/#comment-143 I my self am intested in mma. I fell that if the parents want to let there kids learn mma that is up to them. I fell that every one including the gover ment should not be aloud to tell parents how to raise there kids. I my self am intested in mma. I fell that if the parents want to let there kids learn mma that is up to them. I fell that every one including the gover ment should not be aloud to tell parents how to raise there kids.

]]> By: matt http://kempoinfo.com/2008/03/27/mma-for-kids-yea-or-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-82 matt Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:36:49 +0000 http://kempoinfo.com/2008/03/27/mma-for-kids-yea-or-nay/#comment-82 Jesse, I totally see what you mean, and in a small group with a ball for each kid, things can be exciting, active and fun. There will be some transfer in dodging skill, but of course, it won't transfer as well as good old fashioned sparring. Like those MMA kids were doing. <a href="http://kempoinfo.com/2008/04/06/mma-and-kids-part-ii-the-local-edition/" rel="nofollow">See the latest news on it</a> - in our neck of the woods. Jesse, I totally see what you mean, and in a small group with a ball for each kid, things can be exciting, active and fun. There will be some transfer in dodging skill, but of course, it won’t transfer as well as good old fashioned sparring. Like those MMA kids were doing.

See the latest news on it – in our neck of the woods.

]]> By: Jesse http://kempoinfo.com/2008/03/27/mma-for-kids-yea-or-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-81 Jesse Sun, 06 Apr 2008 03:40:33 +0000 http://kempoinfo.com/2008/03/27/mma-for-kids-yea-or-nay/#comment-81 Let me clarify, I always hated when i saw kids caring only about playing the game at the end of class. I remember teaching at a friends dojo every morning the first summer i moved here to make a little extra money. By the end of the first week all the kids asked when they were going to be able to play games.. I looked at them and told them when they can figure out how to do a shoulder roll i would reward them with a game.. We never got to the game. My main point was i could see benefits if used properly. Dont get hit by the big red objuect being thrown at your head. Could help little johnny react better when someone is throwing a kick or punch at them. Jesse Let me clarify, I always hated when i saw kids caring only about playing the game at the end of class. I remember teaching at a friends dojo every morning the first summer i moved here to make a little extra money. By the end of the first week all the kids asked when they were going to be able to play games.. I looked at them and told them when they can figure out how to do a shoulder roll i would reward them with a game.. We never got to the game. My main point was i could see benefits if used properly. Dont get hit by the big red objuect being thrown at your head. Could help little johnny react better when someone is throwing a kick or punch at them.
Jesse

]]> By: matt http://kempoinfo.com/2008/03/27/mma-for-kids-yea-or-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-80 matt Sat, 05 Apr 2008 00:48:30 +0000 http://kempoinfo.com/2008/03/27/mma-for-kids-yea-or-nay/#comment-80 There is a running undercurrent of nostalgia for things like red rover, dodgeball, and kickball, and often folks will express outrage about schools 'banning' these games. What really has happened is that these games have been assessed by groups like NASPE (the National Association for Sport and Physical Education) and included in the Hall of Shame, but not mainly because they might make little Johnny feel bad, but because they have low participation rates, high injury rates, nearly zero fitness benefit, and few transferable skills. They just don't belong in Physical Education classes. Whether or not a collection of kids choose to play them at recess is relatively immaterial. I played many of them as a kid, and survived, but I think kids MMA (with a huge fitness component) would serve a kid better than dodgeball any time. However, if that game of dodgeball motivates the kids in your class as a reward at the end, feel free to use it if they are all into it. Just don't pin too much hope on them getting much fitness or skill benefit. Eliminating all risk is not the answer, as kids who never experience risk will be little 'hothouse flowers'. There is a running undercurrent of nostalgia for things like red rover, dodgeball, and kickball, and often folks will express outrage about schools ‘banning’ these games. What really has happened is that these games have been assessed by groups like NASPE (the National Association for Sport and Physical Education) and included in the Hall of Shame, but not mainly because they might make little Johnny feel bad, but because they have low participation rates, high injury rates, nearly zero fitness benefit, and few transferable skills. They just don’t belong in Physical Education classes. Whether or not a collection of kids choose to play them at recess is relatively immaterial.

I played many of them as a kid, and survived, but I think kids MMA (with a huge fitness component) would serve a kid better than dodgeball any time. However, if that game of dodgeball motivates the kids in your class as a reward at the end, feel free to use it if they are all into it. Just don’t pin too much hope on them getting much fitness or skill benefit.

Eliminating all risk is not the answer, as kids who never experience risk will be little ‘hothouse flowers’.

]]> By: Jesse http://kempoinfo.com/2008/03/27/mma-for-kids-yea-or-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-75 Jesse Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:11:10 +0000 http://kempoinfo.com/2008/03/27/mma-for-kids-yea-or-nay/#comment-75 The on going joke that i have with the parents at my school is "So they dont play that anymore either?" this will relate to dodgeball, kickball, and i just found out that they no longer have see-saws because they are just to dangerous. 2 generations ago (our grandparents) learned valuable life skills of speed and the ability to move with good reaction time so they would not get kicked by the horse or something of that nature. The kids now are limited to the games they can play where the consequence could be that of a big red (mushy, soft) ball being thrown at their head. Their options - get out of the way, catch it, throw their ball and knock it out of the air, or, get hit and lose. All of these components are teaching the child something and each of these consequences could happen in karate. For years i could not stand seeing the kids play games in their karate class, but recently i have wanted to play dodgeball just so the kids could have some fun and hit each other with something. Because of these thoughts i now make my kids have more safety gear, head, hand, feet, face shield and chest protector and i let them go at it a lot more. The children now are far less mobile then they were when we were growing up, far less fears because parents eliminate them as much as possible. I know the parents want better things for their kids but i think they are stunting the childrens ability to deal with life lessons for to long of a time. Kids need to learn how to get up when pushed down and how to deal with losing and winning. Jesse The on going joke that i have with the parents at my school is “So they dont play that anymore either?” this will relate to dodgeball, kickball, and i just found out that they no longer have see-saws because they are just to dangerous. 2 generations ago (our grandparents) learned valuable life skills of speed and the ability to move with good reaction time so they would not get kicked by the horse or something of that nature. The kids now are limited to the games they can play where the consequence could be that of a big red (mushy, soft) ball being thrown at their head. Their options – get out of the way, catch it, throw their ball and knock it out of the air, or, get hit and lose. All of these components are teaching the child something and each of these consequences could happen in karate. For years i could not stand seeing the kids play games in their karate class, but recently i have wanted to play dodgeball just so the kids could have some fun and hit each other with something. Because of these thoughts i now make my kids have more safety gear, head, hand, feet, face shield and chest protector and i let them go at it a lot more. The children now are far less mobile then they were when we were growing up, far less fears because parents eliminate them as much as possible. I know the parents want better things for their kids but i think they are stunting the childrens ability to deal with life lessons for to long of a time. Kids need to learn how to get up when pushed down and how to deal with losing and winning.
Jesse

]]> By: matt http://kempoinfo.com/2008/03/27/mma-for-kids-yea-or-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-70 matt Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:38:09 +0000 http://kempoinfo.com/2008/03/27/mma-for-kids-yea-or-nay/#comment-70 I think it's a valid concern, and I'm not a huge fan of little kids training in martial arts, as it's got huge pitfalls like you are bringing up. With that said, I think your concerns would apply to all martial training for kids. This is why my friend Nancy's school (capekempo.com) trains a specifically limited set of techniques removing bone breaks and eye gouges and has such a large 'social learning' component that is so different from an adult program. I also think that if the competition portion of the program is given proper perspective, the emotional component is less at risk. You are absolutely right about putting the kids first - this is not (nor is any competitive sport) the place for parents to live out their ultimate fighter fantasies vicariously. And I still think kids should learn to play tag, kick the can, stickball and all the other games that we played as kids before video games took over. I think it’s a valid concern, and I’m not a huge fan of little kids training in martial arts, as it’s got huge pitfalls like you are bringing up. With that said, I think your concerns would apply to all martial training for kids. This is why my friend Nancy’s school (capekempo.com) trains a specifically limited set of techniques removing bone breaks and eye gouges and has such a large ‘social learning’ component that is so different from an adult program.

I also think that if the competition portion of the program is given proper perspective, the emotional component is less at risk. You are absolutely right about putting the kids first – this is not (nor is any competitive sport) the place for parents to live out their ultimate fighter fantasies vicariously.

And I still think kids should learn to play tag, kick the can, stickball and all the other games that we played as kids before video games took over.

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